since there is a debate going on or so it seems, here are my two cents. first i really want to know, how many of you people watching me gets very very annoyed that i've plunged into aph? I mean if i follow an artist personally it would be because of their art style and quality and not for a specific fandom? O_O and i think i intermittently draw other things too like vocaloid and bleach? and i'm going to start drawing Sengoku Basara too because oh god I love Yukimura so much XDD "YUKIMURA!" "OYAKATASAMA!" lol

then there's the rape of history. i think people over use this term...forced sex is rape, genocides is raping a country (rape of nanking?) but...drawing...(admittedly sometimes historically incorrect or competely based on character and not history) manga can be defined as rape? Japan is still changing their historic textbooks to lessen the impact of the Rape of Nanking and why does no one think that is rape even though it is a serious and disrespectful distortion of history, instead they focus on a bunch of youth drawing (unintentionally too, unlike japan) cartoonistic picture and they can call this "rape" of history?

Hetalia zombies...supposedly this terms means something but i completely do not get the metaphor. i think the mere fact that there's history or background to a picture proves that there's thinking involved...admittedly it's not always correct but c'mon there are stupid and thoughtless people in every fandom... then the zombie metaphor is completely off.

I may not be in a position to be debating this since I have made a serious mistake before, there was this picture of Russia that was supposed to be an oekaki so I didn't put in much thought and just created an uniform based on many parts of different clothing when I googled "Soviet Uniform". Then I stupidly added the SS symbol to Ivan's collar orz I do make mistakes like that but I apologized when I found out and corrected the mistake. I think that is the way with most people. I put research and correct history into most of my aph work, I screwed up once and it was intentional and I do feel sorry for making a mistake like that. Maybe that's the way with most of the mistakes you can catch off aph pictures. they are unintentional.

as to the swastika, I must also make reference to Japan. there are many fan arts of Japan in the white military uniform which is a symbol of their world war imperialism which is even though on a lesser scale no less vicious than the nazi regime, with killing of innocents and rape and looting and cruel human experiments. but I don't complain. why? because there was a period of time in history that the uniform was worn, so if they were to portray that time then they must draw that uniform, it's a part of their history. so what if they drew the swastika? it was a part of their history. if they completely avoid it it would be like trying to hide a fact or to purposefully avoid the bad parts to look bad. isn't this even worse than if they just simply drew it as a representation of a period of time so people can tell what time the picture took place instead of hiding and not talking about it? i'd rather the japanese openly draw their imperialistic uniform than try to hide it. guilt and shame are existent, but learning how to face history properly does not mean never talking or portraying any period of time.

in fact i don't mind any art as long as it's just art, as long as it doesn't have political undertones to it. there are certain aph pieces and requests that pisses me off no ends because u can tell that they're totally trying to make a political stance instead of simply telling a story or doing simply an artwork.

as to people being annoyed with aph all over the main page...deal with it. i had to deal with naruto all over the place even though it annoys the hell out of me, and you don't see me complaining just because lots of people likes it and it "annoys me " do you -_-

we must all learn to FACE HISTORY. I have to honestly say there is a certain danger to APH. In fact if I were to be the government I would label it R18. people needs to learn to separate aph from real life in a sense that you can be introduced to a war via aph but at the same time you're thinking how cute people are acting you must realize the horrors of the war. I personally was never satisfied with the japan/china strip where all of china's pains are portrayed in such a "cute" way, but because I know my proper history, I can just take it that it is simply a wrong but still existent way of portraying and pass on. I don't think it's appropriate for people to see the aggressors as being so cute especially during the period of time of their aggression. but this does not mean aph isn't a good concept. that is why we should wait until someone is 18 and that they've had proper history lessons and know right from wrong before introducing aph.

other from that I think aph opened a wonderful door, for us to see the beauty in everyone because beauty is in every country. it is a good way of portraying living habits and cultural differences, and it makes the readers love the world more. if you can treat history properly without being influenced by the cutenese of war in aph, then aph is definitely a good fandom to go into. I used to really dislike americans because they made my one year in america a living hell, but now i can somehow learn to understand their mentality and see their good side.

i like aph. I am an aph fan. I like russia china because honestly, portrayed with or without sex, they've had such a honeymoon in history (though it's one-sided dominating) it's personally touching to me to see two countries having that kind of a period of time, even given other times of aggression. generalization had always been wrong. russia had been an aggressor to china but they had also had a honeymoon with china. If i chose to look on the good side, this would not be wrong, because for that certain time in history, it was like china was in love.

sometimes romantacizing a bit about history and politics makes life a lot brighter, instead of those real life political classes that always ends up making me feel like the world is going to end and we have no hope XD as long as we keep the real situation in mind, a little romantacizing can add to the interest and the optimism which i think a lot of people need nowadays. I certainly did.

feel free to leave comments, but NO FLAMING, NO ATTACKING, simple discussions or follow-ups. "we cannot be blind to hetalia's faults when loving hetalia, but we also can't be blind to the love in hetalia."

and yes i admit there are many idiots in this fandom that does offensive or stupid stuff.

but like i said before, there are idiots in every fandom -_- sad fact of life. if i can learn to deal with it, so can you all.